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| clearedtocross
January 31, 2025, 10:38:00 GMT permalink Post: 11818090 |
According to CNN, the crash was waiting to happen.
https://edition.cnn.com/2025/01/30/u...nvs/index.html Subjects
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| MichaelKPIT
January 31, 2025, 12:14:00 GMT permalink Post: 11818158 |
CNN are broadcasting a new video of the accident from a different viewpoint. Apologies for linking to the whole (constantly updating) page - it’s not like YouTube where you can grab just the video:
https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/pla...003b6mql4oglfn
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| treadigraph
January 31, 2025, 12:33:00 GMT permalink Post: 11818165 |
CNN are broadcasting a new video of the accident from a different viewpoint. Apologies for linking to the whole (constantly updating) page - it\x92s not like YouTube where you can grab just the video:
https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/pla...003b6mql4oglfn
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| W9SQD
January 31, 2025, 17:45:00 GMT permalink Post: 11818406 |
The Federal Aviation Administration has indefinitely shut down the low-altitude helicopter corridor that was in use at the time of Wednesday night’s fatal midair collision near Reagan National Airport, an FAA official tells CNN.
https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/pla...-25/index.html Subjects
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| Chesty Morgan
January 31, 2025, 17:54:00 GMT permalink Post: 11818415 |
The Federal Aviation Administration has indefinitely shut down the low-altitude helicopter corridor that was in use at the time of Wednesday night\x92s fatal midair collision near Reagan National Airport, an FAA official tells CNN.
https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/pla...-25/index.html Subjects
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| grizzled
January 31, 2025, 19:13:00 GMT permalink Post: 11818466 |
The Federal Aviation Administration has indefinitely shut down the low-altitude helicopter corridor that was in use at the time of Wednesday night\x92s fatal midair collision near Reagan National Airport, an FAA official tells CNN.
https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/pla...-25/index.html The most important function of an aviation Safety Management System (SMS) is to prevent accidents by identifying hazards, assess them for associated risk, and then act to mitigate those risks, before the known hazard or incident becomes an accident. Looking at the list posted above by NIBEX2A, it is crystal clear that the hazards were well known, and reported, but no appropriate mitigations were implemented -- until 67 lives were lost. Sadly, this accident will no doubt be used as an example in the future, of how Reason's famous cheese holes can, and will, line up -- and what can happen if those holes aren't closed. Subjects
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| fdr
February 01, 2025, 03:57:00 GMT permalink Post: 11818752 |
The Federal Aviation Administration has indefinitely shut down the low-altitude helicopter corridor that was in use at the time of Wednesday night’s fatal midair collision near Reagan National Airport, an FAA official tells CNN.
https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/pla...-25/index.html
Would suspending all operations of the cross runways not simplify the flow control and traffic management, while achieving the needs of the DOD and the unique needs of DC, without setting up new risks over densely populated areas? The primary runway is fit for purpose, the cross runways do not meaningfully increase operational capacity any more than a well set up series of taxiways at either end of the main runway. The FAA's response is laudable as an immediate response, but it may not be the best risk mitigation in this case. Subjects
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| nojwod
February 01, 2025, 11:39:00 GMT permalink Post: 11818951 |
According to CNN, the crash was waiting to happen.
https://edition.cnn.com/2025/01/30/u...nvs/index.html
Captain Steeve has a good analyis and probably quite close to what actually happened. I agree with the comment on the video that
at the point which PAT25 initially requests visual separation and confirms traffic in sight, it looks like the AA5324 CRJ had already commenced right turn for circling approach at which point the brightest landing lights would be the aircraft behind as AA5324s would no longer be pointing directly at the helicopter. The brightest landing light is now the No.2 traffic which PAT25 identifies as their traffic and will probably now be fixated on due to confirmation bias. Terribly tragic and could happen to any pilot at night.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfgllf1L9_4 If they were using NVG as speculated, the failure to see the landing lights of the approaching aircraft might be explained by a scenario where : Crew mistakenly identified the following aircraft, either with NVG on or temporarily off. Happy with the separation, the NGV gear goes back on and with the limited field of view from the goggles, focused ahead and down as visual flight demands, the landing lights, so bright in the videos, were just never seen, but without the goggles the peripheral vision of the crew might have had some warning. Subjects
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Circle to Land (Deviate to RWY 33)
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| RatherBeFlying
May 14, 2025, 19:02:00 GMT permalink Post: 11883977 |
Air traffic control \x91hotline\x92 between Pentagon and Reagan Washington National Airport has been broken since 2022
The FAA was not aware the direct line was broken until a May 1 incident where a helicopter circled the Pentagon and caused two flights to abort landings, Franklin McIntosh, the FAA\x92s deputy chief operating officer testified.
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