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| Chiefttp
February 12, 2025, 12:43:00 GMT permalink Post: 11826692 |
From a US Military helicopter pilot. I asked him if there were lateral limits to these helicopter routes? Here’s his answer,
There are routes and zones around DC. The routes you have to stick to, if you need to deviate laterally you're supposed to get permission to deviate. The zones, you can fly wherever your heart pleases but you have yo stay below the maximum altitude. You're never supposed to go above the altitude listed on the map.
As for the lateral confines for the routes, they're marked on the map buy a solid blue line. Otherwise known as the route. Last edited by T28B; 13th February 2025 at 15:13 . Reason: fixed bad formatting Subjects: None 2 recorded likes for this post.Reply to this quoting this original post. You need to be logged in. Not available on closed threads. |
| Chiefttp
February 16, 2025, 23:48:00 GMT permalink Post: 11829547 |
The debate about how the altimeters could have been calibrated wrong seems like they are looking for an excuse that most pilots won’t believe.
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| Chiefttp
February 17, 2025, 14:24:00 GMT permalink Post: 11829932 |
Those helicopter routes NO NOT HAVE LATERAL BOUNDRIES. According to a few military helicopter pilots I spoke to, there is no listed lateral BOUNDARIES outside of common sense and following the charted route. , but there are HARD ALTITUDE BOUNDARIES.
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| Chiefttp
February 17, 2025, 20:46:00 GMT permalink Post: 11830143 |
Just to clarify, The Military helicopter pilots I spoke to told me that when you fly one of these “routes” you adhere to the Altitudes, and laterally, you just fly along the route. In this case it would be along the Eastern shoreline, not the center of the river…
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| Chiefttp
May 01, 2025, 19:56:00 GMT permalink Post: 11876695 |
BFSGrad,
I saw that interview as well. I still find it hard to believe that after many years flying, to only accumulate 400 hrs seems very low to me. But maybe flying DC dignitaries and politicians isn’t considered a special assignment. At no time in my 28 years in the military did I see brand new pilots assigned to those type VIP squadrons. Subjects: None No recorded likes for this post (could be before pprune supported 'likes').Reply to this quoting this original post. You need to be logged in. Not available on closed threads. |
| Chiefttp
May 02, 2025, 16:59:00 GMT permalink Post: 11877260 |
I\x92m sure they do, as far as training and certifications, however the big difference between Pilots and other professionals is anybody with a modicum of intelligence can study, train, and earn multiple degrees in a given subject or profession. The difference is a Pilot must also execute \x93physically\x94 what he studied in a book \x93mentally\x94. For example, You can read a book about Pele, or Michael Jordon, or a Red Arrow pilot, where they describe what you need to do to become a superstar athlete,or a Red Arrow, but can you actually score a basket or goal in a professional soccer match, or fly 18 inches from another Jet? Big difference\x85.so I\x92m not impressed with certifications and degrees as much as some folks are.
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| Chiefttp
February 18, 2026, 03:17:00 GMT permalink Post: 12038952 |
The Helicopter Pilot flying the helicopter flew 56 hours the previous year prior, a little more than 4.5 hours per month! Only 4.4 hours in the previous 60 days! And She was on a checkride! Any military pilot will attest to the fact that when your due a checkride you try to get some practice flying prior to the checkride. I guess all the additional duties precluded that .Tough to stay proficient flying so little…..
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| Chiefttp
February 18, 2026, 13:19:00 GMT permalink Post: 12039167 |
I was just quoting from the final report, Page 12“
”with 56 hours in the previous year and 4.4 hours in the previous 60 days. The pilot had 136 hours of NVG time, 2.9 hours of which were in the previous 60 days.” Last edited by Chiefttp; 18th February 2026 at 14:14 . Subjects
Final Report
Night Vision Goggles (NVG)
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| Chiefttp
February 19, 2026, 14:01:00 GMT permalink Post: 12039715 |
Island Airphoto,
NVG\x92s are vision enhancers, by multiples at night. Also, This was an evaluation flight/checkride, so the other pilot was performing EP duties, not IP duties. She wasn\x92t a student on this flight, She was to act as the PIC\x85. Subjects: None 4 recorded likes for this post.Reply to this quoting this original post. You need to be logged in. Not available on closed threads. |
| Chiefttp
February 20, 2026, 10:23:00 GMT permalink Post: 12040136 |
Island Airphoto,
Agree with your comment about NVG blooming and excessive cultural lighting in the DC area, far from ideal. In this case it would be interesting to see if identifying other airborne traffic is enhanced with NVG’s or diminished. I always felt my vision was enhanced, especially looking at airborne traffic, even with an excess of cultural light. Having said this, if the traffic your trying to ID is not the correct aircraft, the advantages of NVG’s are a moot point. Subjects
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