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| DaveReidUK
February 01, 2025, 12:13:00 GMT permalink Post: 11818980 |
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Night Vision Goggles (NVG)
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| DaveReidUK
February 01, 2025, 17:00:00 GMT permalink Post: 11819168 |
Also, Reuters:
"Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth said the helicopter was flown by a "fairly experienced crew" of three soldiers who were wearing night-vision goggles on an annual training flight."
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Night Vision Goggles (NVG)
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| DaveReidUK
February 02, 2025, 07:39:00 GMT permalink Post: 11819561 |
ATC did do what he is "supposed" to do. The Blackhawk was told to "pass behind". Nothing to do with vertical separation. It's a form of separation. That's how it works. Thousands of times every day, all over the place.
As a system ' - at night - I think it's crazy. But that's the system. Subjects
ATC
Blackhawk (H-60)
Pass Behind
Pass Behind (All)
Separation (ALL)
Vertical Separation
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| DaveReidUK
February 02, 2025, 13:55:00 GMT permalink Post: 11819809 |
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| DaveReidUK
February 02, 2025, 21:47:00 GMT permalink Post: 11820137 |
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ADSB (All)
CRJ
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| DaveReidUK
February 03, 2025, 12:58:00 GMT permalink Post: 11820516 |
As far as I can see, the helicopter crew when asked twice if they had the CRJ in sight responded in the affirmative both times. I think it's a tad unfair to criticise the controller for not being able to divine that they were actually looking at a different aircraft in the approach sequence. Subjects
ATC
CRJ
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| DaveReidUK
February 03, 2025, 16:04:00 GMT permalink Post: 11820658 |
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CRJ
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| DaveReidUK
February 14, 2025, 13:14:00 GMT permalink Post: 11827981 |
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| DaveReidUK
February 20, 2025, 07:51:00 GMT permalink Post: 11831998 |
I used ADS-B reported GEO Altitude as my source and added the EGM96 correction for the lat/long of KDCA. Given that, nothing in the chart is derived from pressure altitude. As an aside, I did take a look at QNH adjusted pressure altitude (to get calibrated altitude) and it was largely in agreement with Geo Altitude. The exceptions were two helicopters N11PP and N22PP, and I don't know if it is something I am doing wrong in my calculations or something wrong with their ADS-B equipment.
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ADSB (All)
KDCA
QNH
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| DaveReidUK
January 27, 2026, 16:38:00 GMT permalink Post: 12028081 |
Two-and-a-half hours into the hearing, and it's grim stuff, with the FAA being crucified in real-time.
While "an accident waiting to happen" is an old cliche, there can't have been many accidents where it was more apt, with reference being made to a precursor at DCA a dozen or so years ago where only luck avoided a similar outcome, and sod-all having been done in the meantime to mitigate the possibility of a recurrence. Subjects
Accident Waiting to Happen
DCA
FAA
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| DaveReidUK
January 27, 2026, 21:12:00 GMT permalink Post: 12028223 |
A bit off-topic, but nothing I heard today makes it any less interesting to contemplate the question: in the continuing lawsuit, who speaks for the Bluestreak 5342 pilots? They're blamed by the plaintiffs for what they did and what they didn't do, but they are every bit as much victims of this systemic breakdown as the passengers and flight attendants. I would also ask, who speaks for the Army aviators? who also are victims of the systemic breakdown. It all makes me kind of wish Chair Homendy was in the legal profession, tbh.
There will follow a raft of Safety Recommendations (I haven't been keeping count of how many have been referred to), though it's not clear whether they will be explicitly listed during the hearing. Subjects
Findings
NTSB Chair Jennifer Homendy
Probable Cause
Safety Recommendations
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| DaveReidUK
January 27, 2026, 22:35:00 GMT permalink Post: 12028253 |
Strictly speaking, the FAA as regulator doesn't "ignore" NTSB Safety Recommendations.
It responds to them, with either acceptance or rejection, and in the latter case provides its reasons for doing so. It may also suggest alternative means of compliance with the Board's wishes, and in some cases this leads to quite a bit of to-and-froing between the two organisations until a final position is reached. The hearing is about to start on the Probable Cause statements, having had a prolonged debate on proposed amendments to several of the Findings (which are now all agreed). Subjects
FAA
Findings
NTSB
Probable Cause
Safety Recommendations
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| DaveReidUK
January 27, 2026, 23:09:00 GMT permalink Post: 12028272 |
Probable Cause Statement:
The NTSB determines that the probable cause of this accident was the FAA's placement of a helicopter route in close proximity to a runway approach path.
Their failure to regularly review and evaluate helicopter routes and available data, and their failure to act on recommendations to mitigate the risk of a mid-air collision near Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport, as well as the air traffic system's overreliance on visual separation. In order to promote efficient traffic flow without consideration for the limitations of the see and avoid concept. Also causal was the lack of effective pilot applied visual separation by the helicopter crew, which resulted in a mid-air collision. Additional causal factors were were the tower team's loss of situational awareness and degraded performance due to a high workload of the combined helicopter and local control positions, and the absence of a risk assessment process to identify and mitigate real time operational risk factors, which resulted in miss prioritization of duties, inadequate traffic advisory advisories, and the lack of safety alerts to both flight crews. Also causal was the Army's failure to ensure pilots were aware of the effects of air tolerances on barometric altimeter in their helicopters, which resulted in the crew flying above the maximum published helicopter route altitude. Contributing factors include the limitations of the traffic awareness and collision alerting systems on both aircraft, which precluded effective alerting of the impending collision to the flight crew's. An unsustainable airport arrival rate, increasing traffic volume with a changing fleet mix and airline scheduling practices at DCA, which regularly strain the DCA Atct workforce and degraded safety over time. The Army's lack of a fully implemented safety management system, which should have identified and addressed hazards associated with altitude exceedances on the Washington, D.C. Helicopter routes. The FAA's failure across multiple organizations to implement previous NTSB recommendations, including Ads-b in and to follow and fully integrate its established safety management system, which should have led to several organizational and operational changes based on previously identified risk that were known to management and the absence of effective data sharing and analysis among the FAA aircraft operators and other relevant organizations. Subjects
Barometric Altimeter
DCA
FAA
NTSB
Probable Cause
Route Altitude
See and Avoid
Separation (ALL)
Situational Awareness
Visual Separation
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| DaveReidUK
January 27, 2026, 23:13:00 GMT permalink Post: 12028273 |
48 Safety Recommendations to follow (32 of them addressed to the FAA).
Those can wait until tomorrow ... Subjects
FAA
Safety Recommendations
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| DaveReidUK
January 27, 2026, 23:38:00 GMT permalink Post: 12028289 |
weird that they don\x92t even mention the Blackhawk PF\x92s straying from altitude constraints, the IP repeatedly tells her about her deviations multiple times as per the transcript, baro altitude limitations or not they were both aware she wasn\x92t meeting the limits of the corridor (that the margins are so fine in that airspace is absurd of course)
Additionally this would\x92ve been sapping the IP/PM\x92s capacity to an extent no doubt as he had to monitor her deviations wasn\x92t this a currency flight for her and she\x92s already blown a segment of it? Clearly her recency/skill level is at least a factor? ditto they don\x92t mention the limitations of VFR separation under night vision But all of those deficiencies arguably added up to the stated Probable Cause: "the lack of effective pilot applied visual separation by the helicopter crew, which resulted in a mid-air collision" Subjects
Blackhawk (H-60)
Findings
Probable Cause
Separation (ALL)
VFR
Visual Separation
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