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It said on the TV that people.from.the UK AAIB are going out to help

I think the word you are looking for is "inconceivable".

AFAIK , both the NTSB and UK AAIB are by now onsite to assist the investigation at the request of the Indian AIB. The suggestion that they wouldn't notice, or would be party to, funny business with the flight recorders is ridiculous.

I believe and hope you're right, Dave. But don't be so quick to eliminate unorthodox business. India's a funny old country.

reported were India AAIB with support from NTSB, earlier report was about UK AAIB ref the 50 plus UK passengers, other report mentioned Boeing and GE supporting.

from the EASA statement yesterday :
​​​​​​​No mention of UK

AAIB (UK) Update: Air India flight AI171

Re FDR and CVR, remember the 787 uses EAFR(s) instead - one in tail and one in nose.

Comments above "they will already have been read" - suggest search and read India press links, and the (new) India AAIB lab ability to read data recorders, e.g. one timed at June 15, 2025 00:08 IST. It may well be the first 'political' issue about this accident in where the recorders are sent. If India is chosen, maybe they will take their time with a new lab, and watched over by the world and other AIB representatives? I believe the investigating state 'controls the release of information' (or not). Whilst the UK AAIB are there, as their website says they have 'expert' status, which I suspect means not a lot of involvement in the politics.

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/a...a-flight-ai171

UK AAIB Link here for updates

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There won't be updates from the UK AAIB.

" In accordance with international protocols, release of information on the investigation rests solely with the Indian authorities. "

It's starting to look more like a massive electrical or computer issue which resulted in both engines failing, the landing gear may have been left down longer than normal due to startle effect.

It could be maintenance related or a latent condition in the B787 which only occurred due to the required factors all being present on this occasion i.e. the holes in the Swiss cheese all lined up.

Boeing and Air India will be wanting to blame each other, hopefully having the UK AAIB involved will provide a balance as they don't have a dog in the fight.

If this turns out to be another MCAS, it will be difficult for Boeing to continue in it's present form. The B787 has been beset with problems since its introduction, the B777X has had numerous issues during development and the B737 is overdue for replacement. Airlines are starting to drop Boeing due to quality, safety and delivery issues. China is on the rise and if the C919 proves itself, it might be the main alternative to the A320.

3. The AAIB looked into crew rostering; this is a routine part of air accident investigations (maybe not in India? but they have NTSB and UK AAIB sitting in this time). The AAIB found irregularities; this is a safety issue, so they notified the DGCA. The DGCA would've told Air India, "we can pull your operator license over this, but we won't if you fire those responsible".

It's a speculation, but I'd be surprised if it didn't fit the facts.
Also, we can't draw any conclusions about the accident crew; the discovery could've been incidental, or the accident crew might be affected, but the investigation is ongoing, so that's not public yet. It will be in the report, perhaps in the preliminary report even. (I expect NTSB and UK AAIB insist on a preliminary report, but who knows.)