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CurlyB
2025-06-12T10:28:00 permalink Post: 11899033 |
Talking head on BBC speculating that it may be a case of retracted flaps instead of landing gear. Seems plausible
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Troy McClure
2025-06-12T10:45:00 permalink Post: 11899048 |
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Mr Optimistic
2025-06-12T12:18:00 permalink Post: 11899152 |
The last signal was received seconds after take-off, according to Flightradar24, when the plane was at 625 feet (airport altitude is about 200 feet). 1 user liked this post. |
EK380
2025-06-12T12:27:00 permalink Post: 11899156 |
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TURIN
2025-06-12T14:23:00 permalink Post: 11899265 |
BBC reporting a statement from the survivor, "a load bang was heard just after take off and the aircraft crashed soon after".
Has there been any word about the state of the approach lights at the end of this runway? Edit. Crossed post with Pampel. Looks like it was well clear of the lights. 1 user liked this post. |
slfool
2025-06-12T15:34:00 permalink Post: 11899349 |
BBC report on the survivor:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ce3v6drp96zo
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campbeex
2025-06-12T16:39:00 permalink Post: 11899450 |
Quite remarkable if confirmed.
BBC: British passenger in seat 11A survives India plane crash, reports says " A man survived the Air India crash that killed at least 200 people, a police chief has told an Indian news agency. Ahmedabad Police Commissioner GS Malik told ANI there was one survivor who was in seat 11A on the London-bound Boeing 787-8 flight - a seat the flight manifest shared by authorities said was British national Vishwashkumar Ramesh. His cousin in Leicester, Ajay Valgi, told the BBC that Mr Ramesh called his family to say he was "fine" but he does not know the whereabouts of his brother, Ajay who was also on the plane. Video shared on social media showed Mr Ramesh walking towards an ambulance, with smoke billowing in the background. Indian media said Mr Ramesh shared his boarding pass, which showed his name and seat number. He has a wife and child. The BBC understands he was born in India, but has lived in the UK for many years." |
Fursty Ferret
2025-06-13T09:00:00 permalink Post: 11900211 |
Not going to get drawn on possible reasons for this crash (that's for investigators), but I would encourage you to make a complaint to the BBC regarding the fact that the BBC News reporters trespassed onto the crash site and probably contaminated it. Their reporter was up-front in admitting that they explored it before the police kicked them out. And even more fundamentally, if they weren't helping with the rescue then they were getting in the way of emergency responders.
Regardless of whether or not the cause is clear cut or not, they should know better than to go trampling around a crash site when they could easily film from the edges. Normally I'm very happy with BBC News as a source of information but this was unacceptable, in my opinion.
"...leading up to the place where the airplane actually crashed. It's been cordoned off now, but we were there earlier, and we were literally walking through pieces of charred metal and bodies being pulled out."
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tumtiddle
2025-06-13T09:29:00 permalink Post: 11900243 |
Not going to get drawn on possible reasons for this crash (that's for investigators), but I would encourage you to make a complaint to the BBC regarding the fact that the BBC News reporters trespassed onto the crash site and probably contaminated it. Their reporter was up-front in admitting that they explored it before the police kicked them out. And even more fundamentally, if they weren't helping with the rescue then they were getting in the way of emergency responders.
Regardless of whether or not the cause is clear cut or not, they should know better than to go trampling around a crash site when they could easily film from the edges. Normally I'm very happy with BBC News as a source of information but this was unacceptable, in my opinion. 2 users liked this post. |
MJBirl
2025-06-13T10:27:00 permalink Post: 11900311 |
Not going to get drawn on possible reasons for this crash (that's for investigators), but I would encourage you to make a complaint to the BBC regarding the fact that the BBC News reporters trespassed onto the crash site and probably contaminated it. Their reporter was up-front in admitting that they explored it before the police kicked them out. And even more fundamentally, if they weren't helping with the rescue then they were getting in the way of emergency responders.
Regardless of whether or not the cause is clear cut or not, they should know better than to go trampling around a crash site when they could easily film from the edges. Normally I'm very happy with BBC News as a source of information but this was unacceptable, in my opinion. Surely there are massive risks with regards to theft and contamination of the site, damage to evidence etc. 1 user liked this post. |
DaveReidUK
2025-06-13T14:18:00 permalink Post: 11900556 |
"The flaps of the plane appear not to have been extended when they should have been" - Nick Marsh, BBC Transport Correspondent on BBC News at One.
No mention of any source for that assertion. BBC News at One 1 user liked this post. |
Longtimer
2025-06-13T17:17:00 permalink Post: 11900708 |
ACCORDING TO THE BBC:
A black box has been found at the site of the Air India plane crash in Ahmedabad, India's civil aviation minister said on Friday. Air India: Black box found at Ahmedabad crash site as families wait for answers 1 user liked this post. |
EGPI10BR
2025-06-13T22:40:00 permalink Post: 11900972 |
There was an interview with Vish Ramesh, the sole survivor:
British man describes how he escaped Air India wreckage - BBC News He looks in great shape, banged his eye though. Misty. |
c52
2025-06-14T11:40:00 permalink Post: 11901385 |
BBC reports the wreckage was spread over 200m.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cz0dkrz1kneo
I am utterly unqualified to comment, but I don't believe it has been mentioned so far on the thread. |
runway30
2025-06-14T11:57:00 permalink Post: 11901405 |
BBC reports the wreckage was spread over 200m.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cz0dkrz1kneo
I am utterly unqualified to comment, but I don't believe it has been mentioned so far on the thread. \x91The general hum of the canteen was pierced by the sound of approaching jet engines\x92 1 user liked this post. |
PerniciousRaptor
2025-06-14T12:17:00 permalink Post: 11901425 |
The same BBC report also says the people in nearby buildings who ran to help were alerted by a huge bang outside that they initially thought might be thunder - not by a plane's engines rapidly getting louder and louder only metres away.
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pilotmike
2025-06-14T12:29:00 permalink Post: 11901439 |
BBC reports the wreckage was spread over 200m.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cz0dkrz1kneo
I am utterly unqualified to comment, but I don't believe it has been mentioned so far on the thread. |
deltafox44
2025-06-14T16:35:00 permalink Post: 11901632 |
I have tried a couple of times but it keeps getting removed as some sort of "AI construct" by the moderators.
This is a screen shot taken from the Video thats posted on the BBC Verify website, that they have verified as authentic. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c626y121rxxo I still can't see a RAT deployed. 1 user liked this post. |
Flyingmole
2025-06-14T16:54:00 permalink Post: 11901657 |
On the day of the crash BBC news reportes a number of British AAIB members were flying out to India
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Fly-by-Wife
2025-06-14T19:12:00 permalink Post: 11901744 |
Studies show that for aircraft landing with engines at landing thrust, 30 - 50% of the noise generated is from the landing gear and flaps down, so if the aircraft here had engines at low thrust setting, as appears to be the case, then the sound heard approaching could have been in large part due to the landing gear and flaps, which were down. 3 users liked this post. |