June 12, 2025, 10:31:00 GMT
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June 12, 2025, 16:34:00 GMT
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June 13, 2025, 15:18:00 GMT
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No mention of any source for that assertion.
BBC News at One
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June 13, 2025, 16:15:00 GMT
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c8d1...2f5d8f445#post
Do the particular checks introduced suggest any possible causes to anyone?
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June 13, 2025, 23:40:00 GMT
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British man describes how he escaped Air India wreckage - BBC News
He looks in great shape, banged his eye though.
Misty.
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June 14, 2025, 12:40:00 GMT
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I am utterly unqualified to comment, but I don't believe it has been mentioned so far on the thread.
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June 14, 2025, 12:57:00 GMT
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I am utterly unqualified to comment, but I don't believe it has been mentioned so far on the thread.
\x91The general hum of the canteen was pierced by the sound of approaching jet engines\x92
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June 14, 2025, 13:29:00 GMT
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I am utterly unqualified to comment, but I don't believe it has been mentioned so far on the thread.
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June 14, 2025, 17:35:00 GMT
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This is a screen shot taken from the Video thats posted on the BBC Verify website, that they have verified as authentic.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c626y121rxxo
I still can't see a RAT deployed.
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June 14, 2025, 17:39:00 GMT
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I still can't see a RAT deployed.
However, the rat is small, and the artifacts are plentiful. Small sensor, compressed video, compressed upload, zoom, it is in short an awful source.
However, the RAT is a much better noisemaker, and the audio signature is much more obvious than it’s visual appearance in this case, and though the recording isn’t fantastic quality, there was more than enough information there to objectively conclude the RAT is out. And that is my professional, on the weekend, opinion.
I want to ask a pretty frank question for all of you, and I hope it is ok, from an audio specialist non-pilot:
Provided the engines spooled down. Provided the RAT is out. (There are no explosions, no bird strikes.)
Isn’t software and previous electrical failures a red herring too?Would anything but a complete fuel shut off lead to this result? That still leaves everything from the Fate is the Hunter plot, to Airbus A350 center consoles and Alaska 2059 open as root causes.
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June 17, 2025, 13:28:00 GMT
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The teen who filmed the Air India crash video the world saw
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June 17, 2025, 16:05:00 GMT
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The teen who filmed the Air India crash video the world saw
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June 17, 2025, 20:33:00 GMT
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I believe there are native speakers professional pilots on Pprune who might have read or could find the original piece. Could they help to clarify Aryan's statements in English?
More of this eyewitness' statements in Gujarati also might NOT have been translated into English. Maybe worth checking for more detailed information. Thanks.
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June 18, 2025, 07:38:00 GMT
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This is a rare good piece of journalism. A good summary of how the accident investigation will proceed. Anyone thinking it will be solved in the next few days should probably read this first. The what went wrong is usually established before the how.
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June 21, 2025, 14:57:00 GMT
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India to decide on overseas analysis of Air India crash flight recorders
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June 21, 2025, 15:05:00 GMT
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India to decide on overseas analysis of Air India crash flight recorders
Note this excerpt from your linked article:
1. They'd rather do things deliberately, and get it right, than to make a slight rush and get something wrong (even a little bit wrong)
2. The political leadership are sensitive to how the information age, and social media, amplifies even the slightest misstatement.
3. If they can do it in house then why not do it in house? Why add further delay by transferring the recorder and risk accidents in handling during transit?
4. They are under a timeline set by ICAO, not the time line that your, or my, or "the public's" hunger for information and impatience sets.
Let's give them the benefit of the doubt.
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September 23, 2025, 01:32:00 GMT
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The highest court in India has strongly criticised the country's aviation authorities for their handling of the aftermath of the Air India plane crash that killed 261 people in June.
Leaving only one survivor , the flight bound for Gatwick airport from Ahmedabad crashed shortly after taking off, killing 242 passengers on board and 19 others on the ground.
The court said it was "irresponsible" for the aviation authority to suggest, through leaks to the media, that pilot error had caused the disaster.
It called on Indian prime minister Narendra Modi for the government's response before it rules on a case filed by activists demanding an independent investigation.
The court said the way the aviation body released its preliminary report in to the Boeing Dreamliner's crash was "selective and piecemeal".
The preliminary report, publishedby India's Aircraft Accident Investigation Bureau (AAIB) in July, said fuel supply to the engines was cut off just seconds after take-off.
The report also said one of the pilots was heard asking the other "why did he cut off" in a cockpit voice recording, with another pilot responding that he did not do so.
The recording doesn't clarify who said what. At the time of take-off, the co-pilot was flying the aircraft while the captain was monitoring.
But the findings of the report have been challenged by aviation safety group Safety Matters Foundation, which is calling for an independent investigation into the crash.
In a court hearing overseeing the aviation safety group's petition, one of India's Supreme Court judges said that suggestions that the pilots deliberately shut off fuel supply were "very unfortunate and irresponsible".
The crash has left many questioning the safety of India's airspace.
The chief of the Directorate General of Civil Aviation (DGAC) has defended the safety record of the country , telling the BBC in July that "India's skies have always been safe".
That same month, the DGCA uncovered 51 safety violations at Air India in the preceding year , as part of its annual audit of the country's airlines.
The families of four passengers who died on the plane filed a lawsuit in the US against planemaker Boeing and aircraft parts maker Honeywell, accusing the companies of negligence.
The lawsuit accused the companies of doing "nothing" despite being aware of the risks of the aircraft's design.
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November 08, 2025, 06:57:00 GMT
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Nearly five months after a plane crash in India which killed 260 people, the investigation has become mired in controversy – with the country's Supreme Court the latest to weigh in.
An interim report was released in July, but critics argue it unfairly focused on the actions of the pilots, diverting attention away from a possible fault with the aircraft.
On Friday, a judge in India's Supreme Court insisted that nobody could blame the aircraft's captain.
His comments came a week after the airline's boss insisted there was no problem with the aircraft.
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