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| rixt
June 12, 2025, 10:01:00 GMT permalink Post: 11898894 |
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| PPRuNeUser548247
June 12, 2025, 13:44:00 GMT permalink Post: 11899172 |
The accident occurred in mid-afternoon, when bird activity around the Sabarmati river is known to peak, increasing strike risk to both engines.
SVPI ranks second in India for wildlife strikes | Ahmedabad News - Times of India Subjects: None The thread is closed so there are no user likes are available and no reply is possible. |
| mach411
June 12, 2025, 19:19:00 GMT permalink Post: 11899566 |
Bird strike occurrences at Ahmedabad Airport
Don't know how common bird strikes are at other airports but I found several incidents at Ahmedabad:
https://www.google.com/search?q=site...t=gws-wiz-serp And here's an article from last December describing the airport's measures to reduce the number of bird strikes: https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/.../115851258.cms Subjects: None The thread is closed so there are no user likes are available and no reply is possible. |
| B2N2
June 14, 2025, 17:40:00 GMT permalink Post: 11901641 |
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...campaign=cppst He had 8200 hrs since they switched to digital records. Subjects: None The thread is closed so there are no user likes are available and no reply is possible. |
| PPRuNeUser548247
June 15, 2025, 10:48:00 GMT permalink Post: 11902302 |
I see Times of India is reporting the last call to ATC was
"Thrust not achieved… falling… Mayday! Mayday! Mayday!"
Ahmedabad Air India crash: Long runway roll hints at thrust failure, black box key to probe; officials reveal final moments in cockpit | Ahmedabad News - Times of India
Given the evidence now in the public domain of RAT auto-deployment and simultaneous roll back, with no bird strikes, the most plausible primary trigger is a simultaneous, fuel-related thrust failure on both GEnx-1B engines. Simultaneous FADEC failure seems less likely, at least without tampering. Subjects
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| CurlyB
June 15, 2025, 11:07:00 GMT permalink Post: 11902314 |
I see Times of India is reporting the last call to ATC was
"Thrust not achieved\x85 falling\x85 Mayday! Mayday! Mayday!"
Ahmedabad Air India crash: Long runway roll hints at thrust failure, black box key to probe; officials reveal final moments in cockpit | Ahmedabad News - Times of India
Given the evidence now in the public domain of RAT auto-deployment and simultaneous roll back, with no bird strikes, the most plausible primary trigger is a simultaneous, fuel-related thrust failure on both GEnx-1B engines. Simultaneous FADEC failure seems less likely, at least without tampering. 2. Without any recordings, TOI is not a reliable source 2a. The long runway roll in the tagline has not been proven, as seen many times in this thread 3. The last words of a panicked captain may not be an accurate description of the situation Your theory may be true, but it is speculation built on assumptions EDIT: You're - your Last edited by CurlyB; 15th June 2025 at 12:09 . Subjects
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| Msunduzi
June 15, 2025, 11:52:00 GMT permalink Post: 11902351 |
I see Times of India is reporting the last call to ATC was
"Thrust not achieved\x85 falling\x85 Mayday! Mayday! Mayday!"
Ahmedabad Air India crash: Long runway roll hints at thrust failure, black box key to probe; officials reveal final moments in cockpit | Ahmedabad News - Times of India
Given the evidence now in the public domain of RAT auto-deployment and simultaneous roll back, with no bird strikes, the most plausible primary trigger is a simultaneous, fuel-related thrust failure on both GEnx-1B engines. Simultaneous FADEC failure seems less likely, at least without tampering. It's nearly 1000 posts ago I doubted the mayday call was genuine, and that ToI report helps to reinforce my doubts, it looks like they read this thread and created their report from that, it is just more speculation, some already disproven, certainly no more facts. Subjects
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| helispotter
June 15, 2025, 12:31:00 GMT permalink Post: 11902381 |
I see Times of India is reporting the last call to ATC was
"Thrust not achieved\x85 falling\x85 Mayday! Mayday! Mayday!"
Ahmedabad Air India crash: Long runway roll hints at thrust failure, black box key to probe; officials reveal final moments in cockpit | Ahmedabad News - Times of India
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| PC767
June 16, 2025, 09:56:00 GMT permalink Post: 11903277 |
Very early on I pondered why the person filming the aircraft from a building did so, as have others. Did something specificly out of character cause him to start filming and could that be evidence.
The answer is no. He was simply in the right place at the wrong time. https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/.../121862125.cms Subjects: None The thread is closed so there are no user likes are available and no reply is possible. |
| skwdenyer
June 21, 2025, 16:23:00 GMT permalink Post: 11907840 |
That doesn\x92t make sense at all. 53% would be around 53t which is reasonable for that flight.
A full fuel load of 100t would have brought them by far over the MTOM as there is only around 8t of load left with full fuel of 100t. My guess with 242 POB and some baggage would be at least around 24t of load. Furthermore the fuel burn for tankering almost 50t for 9h would be enormous. EDIT: Sailvi767 was quicker\x85
The plane carried almost 1,25,000 litres of fuel, and due to the high temperature, there was no chance of saving anyone.
I have no idea if he actually knew how much fuel was on board, or whether he'd simply been told it was "full" and somebody had looked up the capacity (126k litres) and he then quoted that "full" number. Or whether, in fact, there was an excess of fuel. But since that seems so far the only public statement on fuel load, it shouldn't just be dismissed out of hand. Subjects
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