Chronic Snoozer
June 30, 2025, 23:39:00 GMT
permalink Post: 11913949

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Originally Posted by Lonewolf_50

About the previous video regarding Air India Flight 171: when Geoffrey Thomas said that "the aircraft appears to hover" at about time 2:00, I wondered at what kind of aviation expert he is supposed to be.

A self-anointed one. He has as much credibility as an aviation expert as Elmer Fudd. That\x92s why the post and video were removed and discussion about anything he raises concluded.

This thread is now meandering in the absence of further information.

Subjects (links are to this post in the relevant subject page so that this post can be seen in context): Self Proclaimed Experts

Chronic Snoozer
July 12, 2025, 11:32:00 GMT
permalink Post: 11920534

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Originally Posted by violator

There will naturally be speculation and some nonsense but this is a discussion forum and that is to be expected.

It's mostly nonsense at the moment. And (mostly) not from professional pilots.

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Originally Posted by violator

What's the point in locking threads until the final report comes out?

I think we've already been through several iterations of locking threads, letting people read through the thread properly, and gather their thoughts before posting gobbledygook.

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Originally Posted by violator

You can always not read it.

But then I would miss truly useful information from professionals who know WTF they are talking about.

Subjects: None

Chronic Snoozer
July 16, 2025, 15:39:00 GMT
permalink Post: 11923819

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Originally Posted by Roo

For what its worth - you can actually shut both 787 fuel control switches off simultaneously, with one hand. Did so myself a few days ago. Closest FCS in your purlicue & other gripped between thumb tip & index finger. Lift both and move aft. BTW, not suggesting anything other than it can be done.

Finally, after 60 pages, I learnt something new - "purlicue". Thank you.

Subjects (links are to this post in the relevant subject page so that this post can be seen in context): Fuel (All) Fuel Cutoff Switches

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Chronic Snoozer
July 17, 2025, 07:22:00 GMT
permalink Post: 11924176

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Originally Posted by OhForSure

I have not posted on here in many years, but I feel compelled to do so now. I am a current 787 pilot and I have previously flown most Boeing types and an Airbus too. I also have an extensive background and qualifications in human factors, training and assessment. Before anybody reads any further, perhaps acquaint yourself with the notion of Occam's razor. That is, the simplest explanation is the most likely explanation. I was certain that after the preliminary report was released the preposterous conspiracy theories would finally cease, but no! It's 2025 and humans can no longer help themselves. In my opinion the captain committed suicide here. Simple\x85.

\x85I acknowledge that this is my opinion and of course there could be things we don't yet know about, but I must say I'm surprised that some of the theories on this professional pilot forum are no more coherent or logical than those being sprouted on social media.

This thread could be two posts long instead of 64 pages and counting; the post with the preliminary report attached and this post above from a professional pilot.

Subjects (links are to this post in the relevant subject page so that this post can be seen in context): Human Factors Preliminary Report

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Chronic Snoozer
October 03, 2025, 04:56:00 GMT
permalink Post: 11963517

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Originally Posted by Abbas Ibn Firnas

On a side note, I really would have hoped, that on this, a professional forum there would be a more appropriate means of describing a Cognitive lapse.

It\x92s long been known as a \x91far cup\x92.

Subjects (links are to this post in the relevant subject page so that this post can be seen in context): Action slip

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Chronic Snoozer June 30, 2025, 23:39:00 GMT permalink Post: 11913949	Quote: Originally Posted by Lonewolf_50 About the previous video regarding Air India Flight 171: when Geoffrey Thomas said that "the aircraft appears to hover" at about time 2:00, I wondered at what kind of aviation expert he is supposed to be. A self-anointed one. He has as much credibility as an aviation expert as Elmer Fudd. That\x92s why the post and video were removed and discussion about anything he raises concluded. This thread is now meandering in the absence of further information. Subjects (links are to this post in the relevant subject page so that this post can be seen in context): Self Proclaimed Experts
Chronic Snoozer July 12, 2025, 11:32:00 GMT permalink Post: 11920534	Quote: Originally Posted by violator There will naturally be speculation and some nonsense but this is a discussion forum and that is to be expected. It's mostly nonsense at the moment. And (mostly) not from professional pilots. Quote: Originally Posted by violator What's the point in locking threads until the final report comes out? I think we've already been through several iterations of locking threads, letting people read through the thread properly, and gather their thoughts before posting gobbledygook. Quote: Originally Posted by violator You can always not read it. But then I would miss truly useful information from professionals who know WTF they are talking about. Subjects: None
Chronic Snoozer July 16, 2025, 15:39:00 GMT permalink Post: 11923819	Quote: Originally Posted by Roo For what its worth - you can actually shut both 787 fuel control switches off simultaneously, with one hand. Did so myself a few days ago. Closest FCS in your purlicue & other gripped between thumb tip & index finger. Lift both and move aft. BTW, not suggesting anything other than it can be done. Finally, after 60 pages, I learnt something new - "purlicue". Thank you. Subjects (links are to this post in the relevant subject page so that this post can be seen in context): Fuel (All) Fuel Cutoff Switches 13 users liked this post.
Chronic Snoozer July 17, 2025, 07:22:00 GMT permalink Post: 11924176	Quote: Originally Posted by OhForSure I have not posted on here in many years, but I feel compelled to do so now. I am a current 787 pilot and I have previously flown most Boeing types and an Airbus too. I also have an extensive background and qualifications in human factors, training and assessment. Before anybody reads any further, perhaps acquaint yourself with the notion of Occam's razor. That is, the simplest explanation is the most likely explanation. I was certain that after the preliminary report was released the preposterous conspiracy theories would finally cease, but no! It's 2025 and humans can no longer help themselves. In my opinion the captain committed suicide here. Simple\x85. \x85I acknowledge that this is my opinion and of course there could be things we don't yet know about, but I must say I'm surprised that some of the theories on this professional pilot forum are no more coherent or logical than those being sprouted on social media. This thread could be two posts long instead of 64 pages and counting; the post with the preliminary report attached and this post above from a professional pilot. Subjects (links are to this post in the relevant subject page so that this post can be seen in context): Human Factors Preliminary Report 11 users liked this post.
Chronic Snoozer October 03, 2025, 04:56:00 GMT permalink Post: 11963517	Quote: Originally Posted by Abbas Ibn Firnas On a side note, I really would have hoped, that on this, a professional forum there would be a more appropriate means of describing a Cognitive lapse. It\x92s long been known as a \x91far cup\x92. Subjects (links are to this post in the relevant subject page so that this post can be seen in context): Action slip 1 user liked this post.

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