July 12, 2025, 22:09:00 GMT
permalink Post: 11920878
It is with great sadness that I woke this morning having accepted the fact that the uncontrolled engine fire is no longer in the number one position of worst pilots nightmare.
Subjects: None
July 14, 2025, 04:21:00 GMT
permalink Post: 11921849
My final thoughts for this event.
Misinformation, most of us including myself was of the view that Gear Up had been selected because we saw an image believed to be the accident aircraft with the bogeys stowed for retraction.The report image shows that they were not and the Gear Selector was down. A crucial element in the sequence of events.
The preliminary report around the cause is deliberately vague for obvious reasons.The investigators would know exactly what was done/said and by who. The clack clack of the fuel switches would be on the CVR and align with the FDR. The First Officer was the Pilot Flying and his control inputs would be on the FDR (trim operation) when the engines were commanded to shutdown.
The full version will leak otherwise we have to wait for the Final Report. I'm of the view that the only thing misunderstood was the Captains meaning of Retirement..
Misinformation, most of us including myself was of the view that Gear Up had been selected because we saw an image believed to be the accident aircraft with the bogeys stowed for retraction.The report image shows that they were not and the Gear Selector was down. A crucial element in the sequence of events.
The preliminary report around the cause is deliberately vague for obvious reasons.The investigators would know exactly what was done/said and by who. The clack clack of the fuel switches would be on the CVR and align with the FDR. The First Officer was the Pilot Flying and his control inputs would be on the FDR (trim operation) when the engines were commanded to shutdown.
The full version will leak otherwise we have to wait for the Final Report. I'm of the view that the only thing misunderstood was the Captains meaning of Retirement..
Subjects (links are to this post in the relevant subject page so that this post can be seen in context): CVR FDR Fuel (All) Fuel Cutoff Switches Preliminary Report
July 15, 2025, 05:19:00 GMT
permalink Post: 11922659
No! I can think of 2 occasions when there will be only one pilot on the flight deck, in the case of incapacitation there would be no way to shut the engines down.
I would be more inclined to go with a guarded switch so that there are 3 intentional movements to shut an engine down, that's probably still an overkill.
Perhaps thrust lever must be at flight Idle.
I would be more inclined to go with a guarded switch so that there are 3 intentional movements to shut an engine down, that's probably still an overkill.
Perhaps thrust lever must be at flight Idle.
Subjects (links are to this post in the relevant subject page so that this post can be seen in context): Switch Guards
July 16, 2025, 00:30:00 GMT
permalink Post: 11923360
Since the preliminary report neglected including when the RAT deployment occurred, I've tried to estimate it based on the picture they did include:
Baro altitude should be around 150ft; using the public cctv video, I estimate this picture was taken between 4-7 seconds after rotation. A wide range, but that was the best estimate I could come up with. Maybe someone else could narrow it down further.
Baro altitude should be around 150ft; using the public cctv video, I estimate this picture was taken between 4-7 seconds after rotation. A wide range, but that was the best estimate I could come up with. Maybe someone else could narrow it down further.
I'm equally impressed by how quickly No1 engine recovered. I think it's safe to say that this situation is not recoverable, but a truly impressive piece of engineering all the same.
Subjects (links are to this post in the relevant subject page so that this post can be seen in context): Generators/Alternators Preliminary Report RAT (All) RAT (Deployment)
July 18, 2025, 01:56:00 GMT
permalink Post: 11924797
I believe the investigators are confident in their findings in what happened and that Homendy's request to hear the CVR concurrs with that finding.It won't be literally what was said in the report. It's probably a good thing that they are not oblidged to release it at this sensative time, I think we need to ask ourselves are you really ready to hear it and should we.
Subjects (links are to this post in the relevant subject page so that this post can be seen in context): CVR