June 13, 2025, 01:27:00 GMT
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The pilot is being quoted as saying to ATC:
"Mayday...no thrust, losing power, unable to lift"
I don't think a pilot with over 8000 hours experience would mistakenly diagnose that. Also corroborates with the RAT being deployed. Question is how do both engines lose thrust. Bird strike is the obvious one. Fuel contamination seems unlikely.
I see a post above showing how its possible an electrical failure can result in power loss. Passengers on the flight before this said there were issues in the cabin; lights, displays and air con was not working. Again, seems v unlikely to be related.
"Mayday...no thrust, losing power, unable to lift"
I don't think a pilot with over 8000 hours experience would mistakenly diagnose that. Also corroborates with the RAT being deployed. Question is how do both engines lose thrust. Bird strike is the obvious one. Fuel contamination seems unlikely.
I see a post above showing how its possible an electrical failure can result in power loss. Passengers on the flight before this said there were issues in the cabin; lights, displays and air con was not working. Again, seems v unlikely to be related.
Subjects (links are to this post in the relevant subject page so that this post can be seen in context): Electrical Failure Fuel (All) RAT (All) RAT (Deployment)
June 13, 2025, 14:59:00 GMT
permalink Post: 11900606
I don't think its the likely explanation here though given the evidence so far.
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June 14, 2025, 23:31:00 GMT
permalink Post: 11901957
There have been conflicting reports about the call to ATC. Original reports quoted the Captain saying "Mayday...no thrust, losing power, cannot lift". But I've seen reports today stating the call was simply "Mayday, Mayday" and then no further response.
Difficult to confirm so I wouldn't put too much weight behind it until something more official is released.
Difficult to confirm so I wouldn't put too much weight behind it until something more official is released.
Subjects (links are to this post in the relevant subject page so that this post can be seen in context): Engine Failure (All) MAYDAY
June 15, 2025, 00:45:00 GMT
permalink Post: 11902000
The mayday reports are so unreliable / inconsistent that you simply cannot base any theory on these alone. It is best to focus on some other aspect at this time.
Some have questioned whether a solitary 'communication' was optimal, given the timings, circumstances and the prioritisation of aviation & navigation. I see both sides of that particular argument. But the idea of making a second call during a flight that was airborne for less than 30 seconds to repeat a mayday? I find that hard to believe.
Some have questioned whether a solitary 'communication' was optimal, given the timings, circumstances and the prioritisation of aviation & navigation. I see both sides of that particular argument. But the idea of making a second call during a flight that was airborne for less than 30 seconds to repeat a mayday? I find that hard to believe.
\x93MAYDAY\x85 MAYDAY\x85 MAYDAY\x85 NO POWER\x85 NO THRUST\x85 GOING DOWN\x85"
Subjects (links are to this post in the relevant subject page so that this post can be seen in context): MAYDAY
June 30, 2025, 10:36:00 GMT
permalink Post: 11913509
Just read a report by Richard Godfrey on the climb and descent
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/a9hhz...ioijg&e=1&dl=0
Not knowledgeable to know about a lot of this myself but interested in views. His calculation asserts that it was not a dual engine flameout to cover the distance it did but there must have been at least some thrust provided to do so.
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/a9hhz...ioijg&e=1&dl=0
Not knowledgeable to know about a lot of this myself but interested in views. His calculation asserts that it was not a dual engine flameout to cover the distance it did but there must have been at least some thrust provided to do so.
Subjects (links are to this post in the relevant subject page so that this post can be seen in context): Self Proclaimed Experts