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| ferry pilot
June 14, 2025, 15:08:00 GMT permalink Post: 11901556 |
At the one brief instant in an entire flight where there is no possibility of recovery both engines fail.
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| ferry pilot
June 15, 2025, 15:30:00 GMT permalink Post: 11902556 |
“ If you want to know how something works, see how it breaks”
This forum is proof of that. Somewhere in all the foregoing posts is the answer the recorders will undoubtedly verify and we will finally know what broke. The human or the machine. Subjects: None |
| ferry pilot
June 17, 2025, 02:16:00 GMT permalink Post: 11903918 |
Despite the considerable expertise behind all the posted speculation of malfunction or incompetence it appears a valid argument could still be made that a perfectly serviceable airplane with a qualified and competent crew made a normal takeoff with no deviation from standard procedures until an as yet unidentified problem caused instant loss of thrust on both engines.
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| ferry pilot
June 20, 2025, 03:43:00 GMT permalink Post: 11906564 |
Reuters
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No less relevant to the discussion than any other reason for a dual engine failure. What is clear is that after take-off there was insufficient thrust to keep the aircraft in the air. Jetstar had a dual engine rollback to idle on descent with the final report indicating that it was biocide treatment in the fuel that led to the rollback. As has been stated, If there is fuel in the center tank then thats where the fuel will be drawn from for takeoff. If that fuel is contaminated then it would explain why both engines suffered a simultaneous loss of thrust.
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| ferry pilot
July 17, 2025, 15:36:00 GMT permalink Post: 11924472 |
If it is suicide, which certainly seems to be most people's opinion, I still can't wrap my head around the fact that there are a lot more "certain" ways to do it, this crash was potentially survivable, he would have known the aircraft would come down at a relatively low speed and rate of descent. Plus other factors like the FO potentially intervening or relighting the engines in time. If you've made the decision to commit suicide, don't you choose a way that has less doubt? It just seems like a really odd way to bring down an aircraft.
Unlike previous pilot suicides that took deliberation and often aggressive action, this appears to be a passive event that could have been conceived and executed in the same impulsive instant. Followed almost immediately by regret, denial and even a futile attempt at reversal. Subjects: None |
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