Posts by user "hanche" [Posts: 5 Total up-votes: 0 Pages: 1]

hanche
June 12, 2025, 12:07:00 GMT
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Post: 11899135
That picture of the mostly intact tail section should indicate that the FDR and CVR should be eminently recoverable, most likely not even damaged, right?

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hanche
June 12, 2025, 13:47:00 GMT
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Post: 11899225
Originally Posted by Panama Jack
The good news here - is it looks very likely that the recorders are in great shape. Does that open hatch indicate that they may have already been pulled?
I'd be surprised. For sure, the accident scene belongs to first responders for now. Recovery of bodies and the search for survivors take priority.

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hanche
June 14, 2025, 08:01:00 GMT
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Post: 11901228
Regarding the sound believed to be the RAT: Some people suggest that the sound might come from the street, not the plane. I'd say the apparent doppler effect heard would indicate otherwise. It would be interesting to do a spectral analysis to check if the frequency drop is indeed compatible with the expected doppler effect. I wouldn't be surprised if several readers have the software and know-how to perform a simple analysis.

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hanche
July 15, 2025, 13:18:00 GMT
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Post: 11922930
One thing to keep in mind in the midst of the discussion of brain farts and the notion that no experienced captain would ever do that : A medical issue impairing brain function can strike out of the blue, even in an individual who is perfectly healthy, both mentally and physically. A mini stroke is just one of many possibilities. So it is quite conceivable that the captain did indeed move the cutoff switches, and then denied it, and yet nobody is to blame , not even the captain himself, because there is no way the problem could have been detected before it arose. Highly unlikely? Yes, but then this whole accident was highly unlikely to begin with.
(Not a pilot, nor a medical expert. I am getting back on dry land before the sharks appear.)

Subjects (links are to this post in the relevant subject page so that this post can be seen in context): Fuel (All)  Fuel Cutoff Switches

hanche
July 16, 2025, 10:08:00 GMT
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Post: 11923601
Originally Posted by Ridger
I understand your intent (and I'm relieved your maths is an improvement on the poster of 1039) but the probability remains '1 in 5 million' for the accident flight. If you roll a six sided die and get a six, the probability doesn't become ONE. It remains 1/6. You just happened to land on a six..
There is conditional probability, typically written P(A|B): The probability of event A given that event B happened. As a function of A for a fixed B, it satisfies all the axioms for probability, such as P(A1 or A2|B)=P(A1|B)+P(A2|B) provided A1 and A2 are mutually exclusive. Hence it makes some sense to say "probability" when you should strictly speaking say conditional probability. Note that P(B|B)=1, i.e., the conditional probability of rolling a six given that you rolled a six is one. Shorter, somewhat misleading formulation: If you rolled a six, the "probability" of rolling a six is one. It's the sort of shorthand often used.

Edited to add: The definition is P(A|B)=P(A and B)/P(B).
When B is an outcome, such as this awful tragedy, and A a possible cause, one often speak of P(A|B) as the a posteriori (or posterior) probability, whereas P(A) is called the a priori (or prior) probability. Here endeth the lesson, lest we venture into the land of Bayesian statistics.

Last edited by hanche; 16th July 2025 at 10:48 . Reason: Clarify and extend

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