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martinebrangan
June 12, 2025, 15:14:00 GMT permalink Post: 11899320 |
Is it an artifact or do I see white smoke billowing from port side engine just around time of rotation?
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martinebrangan
June 14, 2025, 15:00:00 GMT permalink Post: 11901552 |
trouble is we have no evidence of anything at all about the start-up, taxi, roll etc. No pax videos inside or outside the windows to disclose unusual noises, announcements or anything. Not yet.,
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martinebrangan
June 15, 2025, 17:47:00 GMT permalink Post: 11902668 |
https://www.washingtonpost.com/busin...boeing-switch/
Seat movement cannot be discounted. There have been several such incidents affecting the 787 Last edited by martinebrangan; 15th June 2025 at 18:14 . Subjects: None |
martinebrangan
June 15, 2025, 18:18:00 GMT permalink Post: 11902688 |
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martinebrangan
June 20, 2025, 09:07:00 GMT permalink Post: 11906750 |
Engine failure due to water contamination is surely a different investigation to biocide contamination? I expect they're looking into both, but they're not that closely linked.
Surprising that you can do nearly a minute of takeoff+climbout then fail cleanly and silently within seconds of each other. Subjects (links are to this post in the relevant subject page so that this post can be seen in context): Engine Failure (All) Takeoff Roll V1 |
martinebrangan
July 12, 2025, 10:52:00 GMT permalink Post: 11920483 |
3 possibilities come to mind:
1. Pilot who moved fuel switches to off did not do so intentionally to cause the outcome, but for some reason unknown (extreme fatigue, medical condition, medication/drug) somehow confused the action of retracting gear with shutdown procedure at end of flight. 2. Unthinkably, but very possibly, pilot who moved fuel switches did so intentionally, likely planned ahead of time to catch out other pilot at a moment where focus was intently on flying & recovery most unlikely. Mental illness, drug use, personal circumstances behind it. 3. Something extraordinary which was never encountered before which caused or allowed fuel switches to move on their own. When both pilots flying & personal history is investigated, more is likely to emerge, maybe something to support possibility 1 above, where a pilot had on some previous occasions got sequences confused, or suffered brief episodes of seizures whee he took strange actions. Subjects (links are to this post in the relevant subject page so that this post can be seen in context): Fuel (All) Fuel Cutoff Switches |
martinebrangan
July 12, 2025, 11:36:00 GMT permalink Post: 11920539 |
It's established fact both fuel control switches moved to CUTOFF 4 seconds after Vr, a deliberate guarded action, not easily done accidentally.
The CVR records one pilot asking \x93Why did you cut off?\x94, the other replies \x93I didn\x92t\x94. Then a bland Mayday attributed to the Captain \x93engine failure, returning\x94 in the middle of the crisis. The language, if reported correctly, feels strangely detached. No confusion, no urgency, no clear troubleshooting. Not drawing conclusions, but does anyone else see signs of performative behaviour, that is saying the right things outwardly, while being at odds with the underlying cause? I appreciate that both crew members lost their lives, however if we avoid discussing uncomfortable patterns, we miss the point of investigation and learning. Subjects (links are to this post in the relevant subject page so that this post can be seen in context): CVR Fuel (All) Fuel Cutoff Switches MAYDAY RUN/CUTOFF Relight Switch Guards |
martinebrangan
July 13, 2025, 16:00:00 GMT permalink Post: 11921404 |
In past occasions where pilots committed (or intended to) suicide/murder by means of a pax airliner there has sometimes been evidence of mental illness in the past - Germanwings which is in everyone\x92s living memory, and Japan waaay back when one of the pilots was found to have had some history of schizophrenia/psychosis; other times it\x92s been a case of personal issues (thought to be the case with Silk Air) like financial ruin where the pilot takes everyone else with him; whilst at least one other (Alaska) was due to a pilot having serious beef with the airline. None of it makes actual sense to most of us, especially taking others with you when not psychotic, but these factors will undoubtedly be explored to a full degree before the final report comes out. It must also be remembered that people can suffer unusual kinds of seizures, which may last very briefly, where intentional/complex movements are made, be it from neurological disorder or another medical condition/medication/drugs. However unlikely. The brain is a very complex thing which makes aviation technicalities seem simple.
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