Posts by user "unworry" [Posts: 10 Total up-votes: 0 Pages: 1]

"I might see a small puff of smoke and a smoke-ring just before they pass the shed."

I originally wondered about that ... until an old colleague sent me this short clip of a triple kicking up dust rotating in the same location

For your consideration: (20 second clip)

There was a comment very early in the thread (couldn't locate just now so assume hoovered up by the hard-working Mods) where someone postulated that the late "flare" we see in the video was possibly a pitch-up moment as the engines relit and the pilots went from a glide to a climb posture.

I don't want to review the video again -- personally, I suspect the "revving" the survivor heard was the sound of the RAT spooling up, and that the pilots were flaring as the ground approached in the vain hope of setting her down gently. Just sharing the OPs suggestion as it relates to your comment

After reading tdracers informative post this morning, I too was musing: Why is all this attention being given to TCMA.

Of course, when the probable cause is profoundly unclear, our continuing distrust of latent technical systems comes to the fore .... as sadly, the shadow of MCAS still looms large in our imaginations

"I might see a small puff of smoke and a smoke-ring just before they pass the shed."

I originally wondered about that ... until an old colleague sent me this short clip of a triple kicking up dust rotating in the same location

For your consideration: (20 second clip)

After reading tdracers informative post this morning, I too was musing: Why is all this attention being given to TCMA.

Of course, when the probable cause is profoundly unclear, our continuing distrust of latent technical systems comes to the fore .... as sadly, the shadow of MCAS still looms large in our imaginations

On Jun 13th 2025 the DIRECTORATE GENERAL OF CIVIL AVIATION (DGCA) reported, that initial preliminary findings rule out a bird strike as no bird carcasses have been found.

Could the fellow who was cited as having heard the CVR and commended the pilot's actions.... because he trained under the Captain, and would be familiar with his speech, have been bought in to validate who was speaking on the transcript?

I too was curious to see the donks but sadly all I've come across are indiscernible snaps of mangled mass

Thank you for the diagram. Picture = 1000 words

Really highlights how knowing precisely when the why did you cutoff" question was asked might have provided more clarity and less speculation as to how those fateful seconds played out

And it would have helped to know if Positive rate / Gear Up was called ... and when

Just recently, a former colleague shared a similar harrowing account.

He had suffered from depression for a couple of years since the death of his wife in a car accident. She was the light of his life.
I noted recently he had stopped flying recreationally and raised this with him - suggesting a trip may go some way to lift his mood
But when I said we should head away for the weekend and fly up to see friends, he got awful quiet and withdrawn -- then confided that on his last flight, with his grandchildren onboard , he felt such a heightened sense of hopelessness that he was overcome by a compelling urge to end it all. Fortunately he fought off these dark thoughts, but describes it as an almost insurmountable internal struggle - and only fortunate that he was on final and a minute out.

Thankfully he is now receiving excellent care and has voluntarily grounded himself

We speak often and openly about the incident - and this overwhelming sense of "just want out" is precisely how he expressed it.

Edit to add: Personally, I'm still hoping for an inexplicable action slip, but recognise there's two suggestions on the table