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gordonroxburgh
March 01, 2011, 22:36:00 GMT permalink Post: 6279104 |
Just looking at some old 202 pictures Gordon and by golly you are right. Could have sworn it was a 202 (DG) robbery but it obviously it was not. The plot thickens. (I do remember that we had a hell of a job getting hold of this electroluminescent panel for OAD, hence the memory).
....which aircraft was it filmed on?
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M2dude
March 02, 2011, 09:08:00 GMT permalink Post: 6279822 |
G-BOAD's EL panel replacement will just have to remain one of lifes little mysteries.
So the light show was filmed on 202 eh? They were trying out this bilge on the ground on OAB. (Never saw it myself, but that's what was being said in 2001/2002). Obviously the light show is a recent addition to the G-BBDG itinery. Thank goodness none of this nonsense found its way onto the operational fleet. And Coffin Dodger.. I think that you've summed up the general view.... naff indeed. ![]() Best Regards Dude ![]() Reply to this quoting this original post. You need to be logged in. Not available on closed threads. |
gordonroxburgh
March 02, 2011, 19:48:00 GMT permalink Post: 6281115 |
Its not used on G-BBDG, we put the LED strips in along one side to see how Naff it looked......and yes....it was really crap!
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steve-de-s
August 13, 2011, 11:00:00 GMT permalink Post: 6637816 |
Filton
Save Bristol\x92s Concorde and the Brabazon Hangar
The Brabazon Hangar dominates the south side of Filton Airfield. During the 1960s it became the home of the UK Concorde production line, but Concorde wasn\x92t the first aircraft to be built within this amazing structure. The hangar was originally built during the 1940s to enable the construction of the massive Bristol Aircraft Company\x92s type 167, which is better known as the Brabazon and hence this is where the name of the hangar came from . This giant airliner aircraft had a 230ft wingspan, and was powered by eight pair-coupled Bristol Centaurus piston engines and was Britain\x92s attempt at a non-stop trans-Atlantic airliner. The prototype flew in 1949 six years and \xa33 million after the conception, and sadly the aircraft was already obsolete. The British de Havilland Comet jet-powered airliner was already well on the way and on the other side of the Atlantic, Boeing were developing their 707, and both of these would fly faster and carry more passengers than the Brabazon The prototype flew for a short while and a second turboprop-powered prototype (Brabazon II) was being built when the project was abandoned. Both aircraft were subsequently broken up in 1953. With the demise of the Brabazon project Bristol was then left with one of the largest aircraft production facilities in Europe and therefore the giant Brabazon hangars were put to other uses, these included being used for the production line for the much more successful Bristol Britannia airliner. But the Brabazon hangar has become more famous today as the birthplace of all the British built Concordes, ten airframes were built there, one prototype known as 002, one pre-production known as 01, one development production known as Delta Golf, and of course the seven airliner production airframes detailed below\x85 G-BOAA G-BOAB G-BOAC G-BOAD G-BOAE G-BOAF G-BOAG Concorde 216 G-BOAF was the last Concorde built anywhere in the world, and of course the very last one to fly in November 2003. During her final flight she flew back to her birthplace, to Filton to form a major part of a new planned Bristol aviation museum. The plan was to house the whole of the Bristol Aviation Collection, known as the BAC, in one building, a centre to celebrate Bristol\x92s incredible aviation history, and let\x92s not forget that Bristol led the world. But like so many things in this fast changing world, ideas and directions soon change and as in this case not for the better. Heritage Concorde has heard of one idea that it wishes to push forward with anyone who would be willing to work alongside the group. With next years closure of Filton airfield, one incredible heritage building stands at risk of being ripped down and lost forever, the Brabazon Hangar. So why not use this building as the centre of the history of Bristol aviation and space industry, and in memory of the man who started it all, Sir George White. It\x92s large enough to form one of the most incredible museums in the world; it would be able to house the whole BAC collection with Concorde 216 at the centre, where she was built. This idea needs to be looked into and not dismissed so easily by the people leading the effort for the new museum. Heritage Concorde will start to develop this idea further. Any ideas, any offer of help or advice??? Steve de Sausmarez Reply to this quoting this original post. You need to be logged in. Not available on closed threads. |
gordonroxburgh
April 22, 2012, 06:45:00 GMT permalink Post: 7149127 |
OAF was a standard BA machine, except that being younger it (like OAG) didn't have the 'crown area' mods done
OAF was indeed a true BA aircraft, it title was bought for \xa31000 and 10,000FF, but significant sums ( million+) were then spent to deliver it to the BA spec. BA did fund and purchase it as their 6th Concorde, albeit at a greatly reduced price. OAG sort of fell into BA's use. They had "bought" it for under \xa3100,000k, with a must sell back clause , before OAF was delivered to give their services resilience while OAC whet back to Filton for repair. During its use it suffered contamination of its hyd systems, so was grounded, before this was repaired the Concrde programme all but shut down and BA held onto the aircraft fully registering it as OAG, initially it had been G-BFKW. OAG flew for a short while but was eventually grounded, as I understand it mainly for spares recovery, but as it was a million miles aware spec with from the other BA ( cabin was even different) it was a easy choice to make. When BA acquired all the spares and full access to G-BBDG a decision was made to bring OAG as close to BA spec as possible and be the first to have a new interior on the fleet. OAG was then then launch Concorde in the land our livery and a lot OAF was a standard BA machine, except that being younger it (like OAG) didn't have the 'crown area' mods done the air to air shots from this time are of it in 1985. Crown area mods...were these not mandated and embodied fleet wide at the 12,000 major? Reply to this quoting this original post. You need to be logged in. Not available on closed threads. |
gordonroxburgh
April 29, 2012, 18:13:00 GMT permalink Post: 7162482 |
For some reason I seem to remember a picture of a Concorde Cockpit with four INS sets side by side, was this ever the case or just my imagination ?
Also, were the INS installed specially developed for Concorde or were they the same as fitted in the B747 for example.
Finally was GPS updating to the INS position ever developed and installed ?
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booforty
July 24, 2012, 14:11:00 GMT permalink Post: 7312412 |
Wow, what an amazing thread which I have only recently found.
Congratulations to all for a fascinating read ![]() Although I never got the opportunity to fly on Concorde, I will never forget seeing her fly some charters from Filton in the late 1990's. On one occasion I was stood at the wire fence at the end of runway 27 and watched Concorde taxi directly towards me, do a 360 degree turn and line up for takeoff. Concorde was only around 100ft-150ft away from me when the throttles were opened. Luckily I was holding tightly onto the fence and got a face full of dust as the reheats kicked in! ![]() My grandfather worked on the Olympus 593 engines at Rolls Royce in Filton, so I will always hold Concorde close to my heart. I have been onboard Foxy at Filton when she was open to the public and I have visited 002 at Yeovilton and 101 at Duxford. I live quite close to Delta Golf at Brooklands and have been onboard her about 4 times now (including a sit in the cockpit) and recently flew the fantastic Concorde simulator with Captain John Eames and First Officer Ian Smith which is a day I will treasure. Opening up the throttles for take-off on 31L at JFK and tackling the checkerboard landing at Kai Tak were experiences I will never forget. Keep up the great postings everyone! ![]() Reply to this quoting this original post. You need to be logged in. Not available on closed threads. |
DozyWannabe
October 18, 2013, 21:40:00 GMT permalink Post: 8106344 |
BA was able to make money on Concorde as in positive cash flow. But they were basically given the airplanes. The commercial failure aspect comes from the simple fact that no one wanted them to build any more (what I've heard is that at least one production Concorde was built but never put into service - basically becoming a donor for spares - not sure if that's true).
I also suspect it was too much of a point design - it didn't have the range to be useful in the Pacific.
CONCORDE SST : CONCORDE B
If BA (and Air France) honestly thought Concorde was a profit center (rather than brand prestige), they would have wanted more
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The same thing would have applied to the Boeing SST if it hadn't been cancelled (I knew a guy that worked on the Boeing SST inlet control system - talk about complex
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leb001
June 18, 2015, 18:37:00 GMT permalink Post: 9016472 |
Many thanks for all the help. During my research the livery seemed closer to G-BBDG, The Brooklands Concorde. I really do appreciate your help guys....it seems the artist may have been having a fun day taking liberties! Thanks again
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