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The late XV105
February 23, 2011, 19:55:00 GMT
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Barbara Harmer

Very sad news indeed. An inspirational lady that I never had the pleasure to meet. Should you wish to pay your condolences >>

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The late XV105
August 31, 2012, 23:31:00 GMT
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Concorde and TU-144 at Sinsheim

Earlier this week I had the great pleasure of a late afternoon followed by a full day at the Sinsheim technical museum near Heidelberg. Highly recommended and much more than just a museum; just ask my children what they thought of the helter-skelter from elevated Ilyushin IL-18 back down to the ground, or the twisting and turning stainless steel tubular slide from museum roof mounted DC3, through a hole in the roof, and back to the ground level entrance! The staff I encountered were all friendly and informed and I now look forwards to a day at the sister museum in Speyer - replete with 747-200 on the roof on which visitors can walk the wing.

Anyway, of relevance to this thread I thought I'd shared some of my photos of Concorde F-BVFB and Tupolev TU-144 77112. It was tremendous to be able to walk backwards and forwards between the two, directly comparing design features and relative elegance of execution. Both are achievements for mankind but I have to say that to me not being an aeronautical engineer, Concorde won every time - dreary Air France cabin notwithstanding - with the larger Tupolev coming over as somewhat clumsy; let alone knowing engine technologies to be a world apart, just compare the wheel bogies as one example, and then the cleanliness of wing design as another. Yes, the Tupolev canards were a novel feature, but I understand they were only necessary in the first place because of lower speed control issues as a result of more basic aerodynamics.

Like any aircraft on static display exposed to the elements both airframes could do with some TLC, but here are the photos:











Concorde aft cabin door


TU-144 aft cabin door










TU-144 No 4 engine location viewed from exhaust towards inlet (and directly in to the sun!)






To be continued in separate post as I have hit the photo count ceiling in this one.

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The late XV105
August 31, 2012, 23:32:00 GMT
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...and the second post to conclude the photos and ask a question:

Concorde cockpit (through hazy perspex screen)


TU-144 cockpit (also through hazy perspex screen)


A sign that made me chuckle









I hope that these pictures were of interest and can spark some further discussion in this amazing thread. If I can have the temerity to start the ball rolling with a TU-144 question, I was intrigued to notice the following tiny vane situated on the fuselage base between engines 2 and 3. Closer inspection revealed an adjacent hole, perhaps indicating pressure measurement? Anyway, ideas or proven fact welcome!

As observed


Cropped

Last edited by The late XV105; 31st August 2012 at 23:44 . Reason: Additional photos

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The late XV105
September 01, 2012, 19:13:00 GMT
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Thank you, Mr Farley! Nicely explained, and although at odds with an article I read a very long time ago, your words make perfect and easily-understood sense.

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The late XV105
September 04, 2012, 11:37:00 GMT
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One of the guys on the Save the TU144 Facebook page says that the thing in that picture on the TU144 is connected to the Air Conditioning.

There is also a TU144 website now. Format donated by Gordons ConcordeSST
Thanks for following up my question, johnjosh43, and also for posting the TU144 link; I shall take a gander tonight.

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The late XV105
May 13, 2016, 18:11:00 GMT
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The answer is buried somewhere in the last 2000 posts!
Indeed, and searching google for Concorde 88% PPRUNE: will find it. (I just checked)

That last colon is important; it limits search to the website of the name preceding it. I usually find this technique more accurate than websites' own search engines as well as the results more easily assimilated.

Have fun.

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